Would other IRC programs be able to use the embedded IRC? Like mIRC?

3 things.

1) If Sahoni is a member of staff, then Sahoni should be visibly denoted as one. Otherwise, people would simply assume that she(?) is just a regular user who is helping the IRC.
2) I am not saying that to you. I'm basically just saying 'make the work that Sahoni has done visible.' People on forums don't exactly respect acts that are not seen.
3) I personally hold a fine line of having no respect for a person and having disrespect. Irrelevant to the point you were making, but just a warning so you don't misinterpret what I say as being disrespectful, just painfully blunt.
4) Relevance was a poor choice of words. Make it actually noticeable. Some people may just have their homepage straight to the forums (mine is the forum I run, but I have the forum bookmarked for example). When you make the main page the only easily noticeable way to access a site feature that you want to make important, that is a site design flaw. Key features to the community need to be readily available for viewing.

Personally, I think IRC chats are a stupid thing for a forum to put focus on since it turns into 'SUPER SEEKRET CLUB' that alienates the regulars from the forums and vice versa. My own opinion, but just what I think. I understand you want to make it an important part of the community... but my question is 'why?' What does an IRC bring to the table that a simple chat thread does not?

I'd like to point out not only has no one added the IRC link to the top of the forums browser, but that doing so would in no way make the IRC's atmosphere any different. Although if you ask me I think part of it is a lot of people don't like the atmosphere.

People love chatting instantly Keihta?

Damn you're slow.

and I do have to agree with 4 as I know that MANY members just have a link to the forums and not the main page.

I love you Keita.

In a forum of moderate activity (where chat threads often get about 15 posts per minute), it is easier to manage conversations and chatting is effectively instant due to how fast things go, as well as a person being able to easily find what they said and look for responses.

Speedy chats are not exactly a good thing when lots of people are involved and it brings in a whole mess of issues when the amount of people actively talking exceed 20.

Yes, I know that the IRC has a whisper function. But with a chat thread, you can still maintain conversations because people often-- or at least should, respond to posts that catch their attention/interest. If I were to hold a conversation with Zab about Bromont, anyone could jump in and the conversation would clearly be relevant only to those who were interested. You can have several conversations with several people easier than with an IRC.

With an IRC, when many people get into a single subject, it becomes hard to read for some people so when they ask a question, they will often spam it every minute or so because they missed their answer. this was a common complaint on several forums I ahve been to and why IRC was removed/never brought in the first place.

IRC works on livestreams because watching people react to things in real time is interesting. It gives them a subject to talk about, then they leave when the stream ends. IRC rooms like the one you are implementing... well, every one I have seen turns into circlejerking after a certain time. Not saying this IRC is, since every time I go there, it is deader than dirt, but just saying that it happens often.

Just saiyan.

Asking how to improve the IRC, is quite honestly a stupid question when it has little presence. Focus on getting that first, then ask how to improve... and a simple first step would be to put it at the top of the forums.

Implying we get that much activity. Also Keihta, you should look for a thing called a scroll bar, it's quite useful if I might say.



Been in livestreams with more than 30 and we could all have a conversation.

Nope.



I do that all the time with my Skype group. Are you just slow in recieving information?



That's the people's fault and it's been shown to happen in the Current Thoughts here when we use to have a lot of booming days. That's the reason they got rid of an IRC? They must not care then or just give up to easly then.



People again. You know you can set a topic title, right? It's not that hard for someone to post a picture/song/link etc to start a conversation going. Quit being lazy.



As much as some people here don't like to admit it, it does have presence and that's a stupid remark. Let the people who want to help answer, though I do agree in putting it on top of the forums somewhere.

I wish the best of luck to Sahoni, Raven, and anyone else who frequents the IRC.

I never implied that. I just said that in a moderate amount of activity-- which will happen at some point, it will become an issue.


you =/= majority


I am in several skype groups. Can you leave for a few hours then return to a conversation and bring up the topic again in a skype group without having to skim through walls of text?

Again, you =/= majority.

Also, nice thinly veiled insult.


1) Forum features should not pander to a specific aspect of the community unless they are news related.
2) Majority rules. If a majority of the community heavily outweighed the minority in say... thirty to one, in favor of something, a smart admin will listen and remove said feature which is a hassle to manage in favor of newer projects.
3) Do not insult my boss. She may be a awesome lady, but she is years ahead in running forums than anyone on this site.



I am referring solely to chat threads, such as the current thoughts thread. As it stands, there is nothing that an IRC can do that a chat thread can't do better, especially in the case that you need to close the tab and re-enter in mid conversation due to some issue... such as a browser crashing



Because... why? I'm essentially the exact target audience (not desired) that this thread is asking to get. A new person in the IRC. As such, you would want to make it as noticable as possible. putting it on the front page and having this thread is hardly a presence.


The thread is asking the people who are not in the irc how to make it more appealing to enter it, as well as being a Q&A, as indicated by the OP.

1 good common complat (make it more noticeable) is worth a thousand simple suggestions.

In all honesty, an even better idea ot make it have a legitimate presence than putting it at the top of the forums (I only click the UCP anyway), would be to have a link to it in the board index. This, I know for a fact is rather easy to do.

I really doubt it's going to get to where it's going to get 15 posts per minute and even then, people still have to go back pages only to have a new page added while they're searching for something.



You do know that the exact same could be said for you, right?



Of course I can and I have several times. It's not that hard to do so and I know other who think so as well. I'm not the one calling people's efforts stupid, so I don't know what you mean homie.



1. It tries to apply to all members. It's not like you see Sahoni or such telling certain people not to come and he's trying to encourage others to join it.
2. "A Smart admin will listen" - Yes, I am the one saying insults.
3. Years =/= Better



The only "chat thread" we have is the Current Thoughts and as I have said, chat is faster with an IRC. It's not that hard to understand really.



Yes, the IRC wants someone who views the IRC as useless.



Saying IRC's are a stupid thing for a forum to focus on is not right either then.

That's it. Enough dumb arguing. Nothing is getting done and this is starting to get nasty. I'm locking this thread for now. Maybe we can try this again when people are ready to be civil.